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Chris Evans played Captain America, basically the world’s most goodie goodie superhero, just about a decade. With that in mind, it’s kind of hard to imagine him playing a villain again (remember him as one of Romona’s evil exes in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World?). During their time on an episode of the Lights, Camera, Barstool podcast, the Russo Brothers gave us a small mental image of what to expect from Evans in The Gray Man, and it’s nothing like what we’ve come to know from him. In Joe Russo’s own words: